Minutes of the March 7, 2003 Meeting
President Mike Rodriguez called the joint meeting of the Sacramento Valley Association of Building Officials and the Fire Marshal’s Association meeting to order the Woodcreek Oaks Golf Course in Roseville.  Following the flag salute and self-introductions, co-hosts Gene Paolini and Dennis Matheson welcomed all.

The February 14, 2003 minutes were approved.

Treasurer’s Report:  Approved as submitted.

COMMITTEE REPORTS:

Education:   Becky Fraser announced that the next scheduled classes are March 26th and 27th.  They are the electrical classes with Bill Clark instructing.  The first day is geared toward residential and the second day is geared toward commercial.  The next meeting of the Education Committee is on March 13th at 2 p.m. in Roseville.  Tom Trimberger also announced that there are some IAPMO plumbing and mechanical classes coming to the Sacramento area.  Marianne Oliphant reminded everyone to stay in touch with their  Builders’ Exchange and keep them informed of upcoming education opportunities.

Inspector Education, according to Gene Paolini, has two upcoming classes on the matrix of the building code - March 13th in Sacramento and April 10th in Rocklin.  Contrary to the announcement in the flyer, Lunch Will Be Provided!

Plan Review/CRDC:  Kevin Reinertson reported that there was no meeting last month for these committees and announced that the next meeting is on March 26th at the Roseville Civic Center.  Plan review committee starts at 12 noon and the CRDC committee starts at 2:30 p.m.  Kevin reported that the cost to go to the ICC code hearings in Nashville in September is approximately $1,800 each for 7 days or $2,400 for 10 days.  This will be discussed at the next Executive Board meeting.

HCD:  Kevin Reinertson updated us on the rewrite of Chapter 11A.  HCD is coming to the end of phase II and anticipates the March 20th meeting at their office at 1800 3rd Street will mark the end of this phase.  All who are interested in receiving an agenda should contact Kevin at kreinert@hcd.ca.gov.  Kevin also indicated that the Code Enforcement Grant Program has additional funds available for capital assets to be used for local housing code enforcement programs.  The deadline for this program is April 4th.  If you are interested in this program, contact Kevin and he will put you in touch with the right person in his office.

CALBO:  Pete Guisasola announced that Tom Trimberger was elected to the CALBO Board of Directors for a two-year term.  Mike Rodriguez also announced that Tom received the President’s Award for Individual Achievement.  It appears that it was “Tom Trimberger Week” at CALBO and we are proud that he is one of us. Congratulations Tom!  Tom thanked the Association, and especially Sandy Virago with OMG for helping his campaign for the Board.  Sandy was able to arrange for the executive boardroom on the top floor of the DoubleTree Hotel in Monterey for the hospitality suite for three nights!  Sandy, thanks for your magic.  With Tom on the Board of CALBO we will certainly be more exposed to the goings on.  In Tom’s own words, “there is no such thing as too much exposure”.

Tom reported that the program at the ABM was very successful and included an excellent presentation by Dan Larsen on Disabled Access, a presentation by Tom on the coming changes in the CEC and a program by private industry on a comparison between the two codes.  Tom is continuing to work on obtaining comparisons that can be posted to our Web site.  More to follow on this.

Old Business:  Ken Welch asked for an update on progress with ICC on continuing to publish the Building Valuation Data.  Tom Trimberger has been in recent contact with ICC and reports that the new publication will be “Building Safety Journal” and they are saying that they will continue to publish the data but that it won’t appear until the May/June issue (the March/April issue is currently being printed).  They don’t know if the data will be the same as the ICBO table we are all used to or if there will be a combination of data from the three merged organizations so the numbers may change.

New Business:  Tom Trimberger indicated that the CALBO Web site has a link to the a very informative site regarding the PEX issue.

Announcements:  Tom Trimberger says that CALBO is collecting photographs of code violations so they can compile them for education purposes.  E-mail your photos to rondarville@aol.com.

Tom reported that the coordinating council of CBSC had originally indicated that they would come forward at the June meeting with a preference for Code adoption (ICC OR NFPA 5000) but has now decided to recommend that each Agency will indicate their individual preference.  It appears that the earliest that a Code recommendation could come out of this is September.

If you want to have your personal information displayed on the SVABO Web site, we need your authorization.  Please contact OMG at svabo@omg.com for the form.

Mike Rodriguez announced that Brett Hale wasn’t with us at the meeting because he had come out the looser in a car versus bicycle contest – he was on the bicycle.  He’s recovering at home today but hoping to be back at work next week.  We wish him a speedy recovery.

PROGRAM:  The program consisted of roundtable discussions on three different topics: Assembly uses (prompted by two recent catastrophic nightclub fires); Code comparisons between the ICC and the NFPA 5000; and dust control in woodworking shops.

Dan Larsen  (dan@lp2a.com) reported out of the assembly uses group and should be contacted for specifics of their discussion.

Pete Guisasola (peteg@rocklin.ca.gov) reported out of the code comparison group and should be contacted for specifics of this discussion.

Roger Fuller (fullerr@saccounty.net) reported out from the dust control group.  Roger has provided a summary of their discussion that you will find at the end of these minutes.  He and Greg Lake (lake.greg@smfd.ca.gov) from the Sacramento Metro Fire District would like input on this issue.

CODE DISCUSSION:  Dennis Mathisen (dmathisen@roseville.ca.us) presented the issue of a mini-storage facility wanting to locate into an existing warehouse and use large, metal cargo containers as the storage units. Steve Foster (stevefoster@egcsd.ca.gov) discussed issues surrounding shopkeepers installing roll-down, mesh security doors on the inside of the exit door of the shop.  Tom Trimberger (ttrimberger@saccounty.net) asked about the Unico Systems high volume heating and air conditioning units with small ducts surrounded by insulation that are dropped into the stud walls.  Ken Doyle (kdoyle@elkgrovecity.org) asked about swimming pool fencing/alarm systems, specifically “baby guard”.  Pete Guisasola (peteg@rocklin.ca.gov) asked for discussion on whether, under the recently adopted NEC, arc fault interrupters are required on receptacles and outlets or just receptacles.  Nancy Springer directed everyone to the IAEI Web site which has a lot of information of this nature.

NEXT MEETING:  The next meeting will be on April 11, 2003 at Butte College.  The program is “Recruitment and the BIT” and will include a tour of the new facility, an opportunity for Association members to meet the graduating class, “our future employees” and a discussion hiring practices in our various jurisdictions.

ADJOURNMENT:    The meeting was adjourned and “Tom Trimberger Day” AT SVABO officially ended at approximately 1:30 p.m.

Respectfully submitted.

Marianne Oliphant
Secretary

Attachment

   

COUNTY OF SACRAMENTO

PUBLIC WORKS AGENCY

                                                               Commercial Plan Review                                April 1, 2003

TO:

SVABO Recording Secretary
Marianne O

 

FROM:

Roger Fuller
Sac Co

 

SUBJECT:

Cabinet Shops and Dust Collection

A round table discussion was held at the SVABO General Membership meeting on 3/7/03

Members present included representatives of Sac County Building Inspection and Sac Metro Fire.

Problem

  • Small cabinet shops are out of compliance with building, fire and mechanical codes for the proper handling and disposal of flammable dust (sawdust) by using indoor bag and 55-gal drum dust collection systems.  UMC 505.1 requires exhaust for flammable dust to be direct to the outside and not recirculated to occupied areas.
  • The economic impact for compliance to exterior mounted exhaust collection cyclone systems on small shops would be sever as the installed cost typically is $40-60,000 by Fire Dist estimate.
  • There is a lack of Qualified Fire Engineers to evaluate Alternate Methods or Means of protection.  UBC 104.2.8
  • Studies of case history for fires in cabinet shops from insurance reports do not indicate significant prior losses within cabinet shops due to improper handling of dusts.

Conflict of Codes.

While the mechanical code requires exhaust to the outside, the Fire Code allows a collection system to be contained within the building if explosion venting, 1-hour separation and room exhaust to the outside within 10’ is provided. Is spark-arresting system mandated?

Discussion

  • A draft proposal was presented authored by Greg Lake suggesting when indoor collection systems could be allowed.
  • Square foot size of the shop, number of employees, number of dust producing equipment and whether a shop is considered a production facility were evaluated.
  •  Liability to jurisdictions making considerations of alternate systems needs to be considered.

Recommendations and Presentation to Membership

No recommendations to the membership were agreed to after the 20-minute discussion. It was suggested that in many cases, judgment may be used.  How many pieces of equipment?  How many employees?  Is it production work that would create a lot of dust or more custom work?  How big is the shop.  It takes a lot of room to do production work.  The code exempts handheld saws and lumberyards- so is the proposed shop substantially different.  It would be difficult to quantify in terms of # of pieces of equipment or sq. footage of shop area.

Keep in mind that many shops “evolve’ and “grow” so the use characteristics change.  Shops that get permits are perhaps not the worst offenders.  There are a lot of worse shops still in operation.

Some jurisdictions get permits with business license renewals and check for gross violations.

 

 

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